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Punishing NC State is a good way to pretend that you care. Nobody really minds but us, and allows them to keep their corrupt house of cards standing.
The courthouse circuit is just a good place to catch hold of what's in the wind. A great many of the attorneys have contacts within various universities and boards, and just generally tend to pick up on things.
If we fight them, we have a chance, but we have to fight like UNC did.
I don't have any clue as to our financial situation, but UNC paid $12 mil to lawyer up. That's close to 4 years of Doeren's salary. I'm going to guess we aren't anywhere near able to afford to bribe lady justice.
I'd be willing to be the "real cost" was much higher! Pro Bono discounts to save their U!
Rye, love the Caddyshack reference.
I do feel that the NCAA was embarrassed by UnC, but the thought of the two.crafting a joint exit strategy wouldn't surprise me whatsoever.
Btw, I've run into Swofford a few times and apparently the only thing he is lifting a finger to do is to bring food and drink to his mouth.
He is rapidly approaching Jabba the Hut proportions. Maybe the ACC HQ now resembles the bar scene in Star Wars. 😋
BJD: I agree. By teeing us up first because our transgressions “are so obvious,” the NCAA proves that it “has teeth” and is willing to punish “one of the big boys.” They almost have to punish us, almost like they wanted to do everything to let UNC skate. They have to prove they can self govern.
What they have done is laid it out in a way that the things against the school are Level 2 violations. I fully expect N.C. State to get the maximum level 2 violation punishment allowable. Coach Gott and his gang will be done coaching college basketball.
The real one to watch us Kansas and Self. Kansas is in the “too big to fail” bunch. I am not convinced there’s much love for Arizona within the NCAA.
Does anyone know what the max allowable punishments for level 2 violations are? Or will they set the bar with us?
It will be of the "bend over and take it like a man" variety.
GSO: Caddyshack is awesome.
The more I watched, the more I was convinced that the NCAA, ACC, UNC and ESPN worked together to navigate that to get to the outcome that they all benefited from -- and that was for UNC to keep right on playing with business pretty close to usual.
The final chapters of that UNC investigation were pretty sickening. Jay Bilas and others delivered the message on live television through the NCAA tournament, including in games that didn't involve UNC. No punishment was coming, and the exact talking points that Bilas was rattling off may as well have been read straight from the NCAA's report (and likely were). No real punishment was handed out. Then the following week the NCAA hammered some HBCs and regional schools for far lesser transgressions. Pretty much classic NCAA.
Only Yahoo, a reporter or two out of the N&O and NC State fans were really holding them accountable. I think by the end that group knew what was inevitable.
Note that I said NC State fans. Our university clearly wasn't putting pressure on UNC at an institutional level. That could have been due to the BOG, or it could have been due to the fact we knew our own house wasn't clean. You make the call.
Rye - it was both.
Also, it seems we have hired the very same lawyers, and I doubt they's a Wolven Sort Discount. So, we'll pay $10-15M and still get boned.
Everything Rye said is how, having spent some years in media/reporting, the real world really works.
While I doubt there's a Wolven discount, I hope (but doubt) we have a results-oriented contract, if not a money back guarantee.
Rye - isn’t funny how those exact same entities virtually ran a train on us after our defeat of Clemson and loss to UVA leading up to selection Sunday. The NCAA, ESPN and Jay Bilas again leading the charge.
Yep. The irony was not lost. I actually think on some level we were getting a post season ban.....
Agreed. If you replace the NET rankings with previous RPI rankings, I am not sure there’s a bigger P5 snub.
Meh, give it to us after 2020-21, which is shaping up to be a poop year/squadron anyway. Surely the lawyer-types can kill time so maybe we can enjoy the Markell Last Huzzah.
I would be fine with that. We are set up 2019-2020 for a very good year.
Why wouldn't we call the NCAA on it's corruption?Literally, have a press conference and lay out what UNC did and point out the Nike connections etc. I guess it wouldn't matter. I hate men's college sports.