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If anybody here knows which city in Wake County the patient is from that would be great information to share. Of course media does not say and also does not say WHEN the flight back from Washington occurred. That'd be too pertinent. Not that it matters much, I think it's pretty much all over the place now.
I'm of opinion we should have been social distancing week or two ago across the country and I believe we are in for a rough few months ahead. Aside from travel bans the US seems to have taken for the most part a reactive approach thus far rather than preventative approach. I'm also of opinion this can't be contained at this stage anymore either.. it's just going to run it's course like the flu is allowed to do. Best case scenario is that hospitalization cases can be spread out over time.
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This thing is bad, but I don’t see evidence that it’s Armageddon. I think it’s ultimately a lot worse than the flu for severe cases, but from everything I have read and heard, the equivalent of a typical cold for the majority of folks.
This doesn’t mean you ignore it. The mortality rate is such people have to exercise more diligence than usual, but life shouldn’t stop based on what I have heard and read.
I am NOT a medical professional. However, as a retired Safety Director (and Environmental and a lot of other responsibilities that require some planning), I have been following this....for many reasons.....some personal....I am almost 75; I am now responsible for some "emergency planning" as a Trustee in our local church; I have two GK's that are in schools that have a 60+% international population; My daughter teaches art in an elementary in Cary that is probably 75% international....she did a map of student's "home country" and had over 200 plus pins all over the world. I also have friends that are retired and perhaps a little more of a "Prepper" than I am. BOTTOM LINE....I am sharing this.... to supplement PackPAC's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIL5m5XznNY
This video is a must see for one to "understand" a virus....and how it is transmitted and how it impacts the body. I knew that TamiFlu lessened the impact of the Flu. TamiFlu kills or targets the "reproductive" capability of the virus cells. Once you stop them from reproducing or replicating, THEN the body's own immune system has a chance to develop the anti-body to start to kill or attack the anti-gen (virus). The body's auto immune system is a marvel.....but it can be overwhelmed and needs rest....and occassionally a "jump start" with massive dosages of cortasone....
The next two video's are from Dr. Robert Campbell, a research scientist in the UK. he has been doing these since the onset of the virus. They are close to 25 minutes.
I watch them daily. He gives information peppered with common sense and also drills down to some interesting conclusions.... The first few minutes of the Feb 28 and Feb 29 give you some insight that most do not have. If you watch them, you begin to get the grasp of this virus... He does them daily and they are posted on YouTube each afternoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIRMHzBZdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOTz9duXwo
One of my PERSONAL concerns after many hours of watching Dr. Campbell is that children/teenagers seem to have a higher degree of immunity.....in that they seem very unlikely to actually "GET" the virus.... BUT....they are high on the list of suspected "carriers"....and this virus is transmitted by individuals with NO SYMPTOMS (and may NOT actually come down with the virus). THAT is spooky...
Another is the hyping of this by the press and the misinformation (sensationalism) that is out there. MASKS are for folks that MIGHT have the virus.....not to protect you FROM getting it. Surface contact via clothes, hands (licking a shrine as they do in Iran), touching, hugging, etc is HOW this virus is transmitted. Once you have it on your hands....you eat or touch your mouth or face or eyes or nose or whatever and THEN your chances are greater...
I can also tell you that finding hand sanitizer dispensers is virtually impossible.... I was tasked, with another lady, to outfit our church. She has commercial kitchen contacts and I used Amazon. Amazon has sold out. The ISSUE is that IF you purchase a proprietary dispenser that uses a proprietary refill cartridge.....are you going to be able to replenish it. Bulk (pour in your liquid) dispensers are popping up, but the quality and reliability are questionable. Our church located 15 @ $40 each and the 1000 mL refills are $90 for a case of 8. OUCH....
Case in point, I had some sort of flu over the weekend. I’d had my flu shot. Which strand did I have that wasn’t covered? Who knows?
I worry about North Korea and Iran - both notoriously unforthcoming with credible news/statistics. But Italy and Japan have jumped on it hard with both feet - and that may stem the tide.
Anyway, if you're a statistics junkie (or a metricaholic) - that's a nice site.
If the virus spreads much more and takes hold then we are screwed. The virus came from a culture that doesn't handshake much and it is acceptable to wear face masks in public. Before the coronavirus, if you wore a face/surgical mask out in public then you would be treated like you had the bubonic plague. I honestly don't know why it is not more acceptable in our culture.
Working with the public, I can tell you about 4 out of 5 people freaking sneeze or cough right into there hands. It's a pet peeve of mine. My parents, grandparents, and teachers taught me better than that. Always into your arm. Never your hands. Literally, people will sneeze/cough into their hands then hand me money or a card. Drives me freaking crazy. AND people will step away or turn away to be "considerate" only to sneeze/cough into the their hands. What's the point if you use put all the crap into your hands!?!
Even if God or aliens or whatever came down and gave us a large supply of a vaccine today, half the people wouldn't give take it because 1. they are too busy, 2. the virus won't affect them that much even if they do get it, 3. vaccines are scams created by the government and it isn't something that herbs/natural remedies won't cure.
Case in point, the first patient in NH was told to self quarantine while they were testing him and instead we went an event at the Dartmouth business school. I hope we can keep this under control but I have my doubts and it will affect vulnerable populations most because individuals act stupidly, inconsiderate, or both. I believe our culture is woefully unprepared to deal with a pandemic. Whether it be this or something new in the future.
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