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Maybe we got ourselves something to look forward to after all.
That's huge. Without him we aren't making the tournament.. but with him we've got a chance.
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That was the most important recruit of the "late period." I'm glad MJ will be back!
Welcome back Markell Johnson!!
Maybe we can have a good year next year
I see what you did there. Let the optimism over flow.
Agreed. We can compete for title now.
Title? You mean "tournament bid" and/or 7th place. :D
I read in The Atlantic that Markell really just had to adjust to Keatts "not letting players do whatever the hell they want" unlike Gott.
Maybe 6th place with this latest development.
/not just for the terlet no more!
It is June and I am an optimist. We can compete for top four in the ACC.
Glad he’s coming back.
Ah YES.....just like all the crowded field of presidential candidates for 2020, hope springs eternal.....
but you NEVER know who might win the thorny crown, now do you....??
Top for is always possible given the losses other teams have had.
Hope he learns how to not pick up 2 early fouls in 1st half and p!ay more of the game more often.
Glad he is back.
Dorn is the only significant loss, and Bates, Seabron, and Andree inject talent that should offset. Plus, I expect Markell to continue the improvement he has shown in every season of his career.
Bryce, Daniels, Harris, and Hellems all now have a year of experience in the ACC and should be improved. Daniels, Harris, and Hellems all flashed and each could make a big improvement.
Shooting and athleticism should be improved. Defense could improve, especially at the rim.
The rotation will include 3 seniors and 4 juniors, which presumably makes it one of the most experienced in the ACC.
Really, what's not to like?
As well as NOT get in rumbles with old HS friends or buddies....
Top 4 requires a material upgrade in bb IQ. I consider myself an optimistic person but when was the last time State has been in the top 4 since 1991. I remember the Lowe 3 seed prediction. Glad to hear MJ is back.
I like Hellums. I think we will him and Thunderburk really take a step forward
I just don't see top 4. If we finish #6 I'd be thrilled. Probably 7th or 8th.
i don’t know what people are smoking thinking we are in some way a top 4 team in the ACC. We’re probably right smack in the middle.
KK’s first year we finished tied for third.
Tau: I see it like you do. Dorn is a loss. There’s no question about that. He brought it every night and filled up the box score. He was under appreciated among Pack fans.
We’ll miss Walker’s effort, five fouls and a little bit of a mean streak. Hopefully the grad transfer gives us something similar. That’d be a net plus of anything Bates can give us down low.
I liked Lockett’s game but he was pretty much on the end of the bench most of the year. The JUCO probably gives us about that level of production.
The rest of the roster is a year older, and presumably that much more comfortable playing together. Most of those guys really hadn’t had any sort of like game action together until the first one last year.
Then we add in a sharp shooter, which we desperately needed. That was our most glaring weakness this year, AND the 3 point line moves back this season.
We also add in a bouncy, four star freshman. That’s another wing for our 4 around 1. So to me we look better.
Then there’s the rest of the league. While I normally snort at the “other teams lost so much” argument because they’re ACC teams recruiting and developing players,
I do think the league isn’t going to be as top heavy this year. Duke has their one and dones, but none of those kids is Zion. UVA lost the core of their older team. UNC will be good and Louisville will spike up, but I think State can be right in that mix.
Hellems and Harris are the keys. Their improvement will determine whether we are on the bubble or comfortably in as a 5 seed. I like Hellems too. He has a lot of raw ability. Let’s see if it can be developed
Rye, the question remains. I’ll go look it up myself eventually. Tied for third, tied for third. Sole possession of third in tiebreakers. Iirc, State wasn’t last in tiebreaker sweepstakes so there’s that. Tied for third resulted in the 5th seed and a loss to 12th seed BC in the ACCT. Then the coveted 9th seed in the Ncaat. Is the wood choppers S16 the pinnacle? Does Gott even count?
"Is the wood choppers S16 the pinnacle?"
Who said that? Why argue against a strawman?
The best case scenario at this point is that KK has begun a slow and steady build to a higher plateau as a program. No one is saying we have reached that plateau in 2 seasons and are happy with residing there. At least I haven't seen anyone saying that.
I think too many fans ignore the fact that Gott left the program in shambles:
You can spend all the time you want trying to justify why the glass is half empty, despite claiming to be an optimist above. I prefer to look at it as half full and getting fuller.
Regarding this question: "when was the last time State has been in the top 4 since 1991?"
Here are the number of losing ACC seasons by HC in the past 30 seasons:
In the past 30 seasons, State has 9 winning ACC seasons, 2 at .500, and 19 losing ACC seasons. After Les's first season, in which he had V's roster, we went through a stretch of 16 losing ACC seasons in 20 years. Brutal. This is why outsiders think our fans are delusional when it comes to coaching searches.
Anyway, it is obviously too early to draw any long term conclusions about the program under KK, but he is off to a solid start. I look forward to him building on it this season.
I’m as guilty as any unicorn, rainbow poster on any State site. Every year for the past 8 I’ve thought a double bye Top 4 seed for the ACCT was realistic prior to the next campaign. Gott was close twice and Keatts was close 2 years in a row. The wfu, gt and the vt games just create painful ulcers. The thin glass barrier just hasn’t broken. This time around I’m asking myself when was the last 4 seed when I think it’s possible once again. Thanks for answer recap.